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	<title>Comments on: Flaunting Affiliate Network Rules With Blackhat PPC</title>
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	<link>http://www.ppcblog.co.uk/affiliate-advertising/flaunting-affiliate-network-rules-with-blackhat-ppc/</link>
	<description>A cynical look at Pay Per Click (PPC)</description>
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		<title>By: baz</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 15:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post, but although I have found black hat more interesting, but will eventually let you down</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post, but although I have found black hat more interesting, but will eventually let you down</p>
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		<title>By: asdffdf</title>
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		<dc:creator>asdffdf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 03:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google has changed their keyword bidding policy in many countries and in those specific countries people are allowed to bid on certain trademarks. Blackhat PPC will still work if you run trademark campaigns because if your advertiser found bidding on their trademarks, Don’t get worried tell him, You will promote his competitors using their own Trademarks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google has changed their keyword bidding policy in many countries and in those specific countries people are allowed to bid on certain trademarks. Blackhat PPC will still work if you run trademark campaigns because if your advertiser found bidding on their trademarks, Don’t get worried tell him, You will promote his competitors using their own Trademarks.</p>
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		<title>By: camping</title>
		<link>http://www.ppcblog.co.uk/affiliate-advertising/flaunting-affiliate-network-rules-with-blackhat-ppc/comment-page-1/#comment-194297</link>
		<dc:creator>camping</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 18:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have tried some of these methods before, but they only work in the short term. Sooner or later you will get caught out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have tried some of these methods before, but they only work in the short term. Sooner or later you will get caught out.</p>
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		<title>By: earn easy money</title>
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		<dc:creator>earn easy money</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 02:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve heard some of these methods before. However I didn&#039;t do it yet because I still don&#039;t create a website or blog for this purpose, but I haven&#039;t heard for the last method, looks like this is an interesting method. I&#039;ll learn it first and maybe ask you later. Thank for your information</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve heard some of these methods before. However I didn&#8217;t do it yet because I still don&#8217;t create a website or blog for this purpose, but I haven&#8217;t heard for the last method, looks like this is an interesting method. I&#8217;ll learn it first and maybe ask you later. Thank for your information</p>
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		<title>By: Ram Gunjal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ram Gunjal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jul 2010 13:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google has changed their keyword bidding policy in many countries and in those specific countries people are allowed to bid on certain trademarks. Blackhat PPC will still work if you run trademark campaigns because if your advertiser found bidding on their trademarks, Don&#039;t get worried tell him, You will promote his competitors using their own Trademarks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google has changed their keyword bidding policy in many countries and in those specific countries people are allowed to bid on certain trademarks. Blackhat PPC will still work if you run trademark campaigns because if your advertiser found bidding on their trademarks, Don&#8217;t get worried tell him, You will promote his competitors using their own Trademarks.</p>
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		<title>By: wholesale wedding dress</title>
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		<dc:creator>wholesale wedding dress</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 08:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PPC good post~</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PPC good post~</p>
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		<title>By: PPCblogger</title>
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		<dc:creator>PPCblogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comments @ChiefGooroo.

Obviously this post was written back in &#039;07, so a couple of years on a lot of these methods are now outdated. 

Some still work to a certain degree, while others are completely dead - depending on the affiliate network or tracking systems in place. 

You might be surprised, there are STILL some large networks here in the UK with pretty unsophisticated systems in place.

I might update this at somepoint and discuss some of the newer techniques out there. 

But obviously, the best methods are always kept quiet. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comments @ChiefGooroo.</p>
<p>Obviously this post was written back in &#8217;07, so a couple of years on a lot of these methods are now outdated. </p>
<p>Some still work to a certain degree, while others are completely dead &#8211; depending on the affiliate network or tracking systems in place. </p>
<p>You might be surprised, there are STILL some large networks here in the UK with pretty unsophisticated systems in place.</p>
<p>I might update this at somepoint and discuss some of the newer techniques out there. </p>
<p>But obviously, the best methods are always kept quiet. :-)</p>
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		<title>By: ChiefGooroo</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChiefGooroo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PPCBlogger,

Very nice post but with all due respect, these are old tricks and none of them work against a mature monitoring system (however, practically *all* of them will work against an affiliate manager who is naive enough to believe they can police their affiliates manually.)

We&#039;ve been doing this for about five years, so I like to believe I know a thing or two. We&#039;ve spent millions rolling out a global network in over 20 countries. Our network consists of servers located in many major metropolitan ares and it focuses solely on collecting search engine advertisements.

Keeping that in mind, here&#039;s a point-by-point response to the techniques in your post.

1. Dayparting - doesn&#039;t work because an automated monitoring solution is looking 24 hours a day.

2 &amp; 3. Geotargeting and IP blocking - this WILL work against a small-time system. Our network consists of tens of thousands of nodes. Affiliates have no way of blocking them, short of suppressing ad serving to major cities (which also has the side effect of eliminating most of their traffic.)

4. Advert tricks (&quot;hijacking&quot;) - We are so far beyond that it&#039;s not funny: http://www.adgooroo.com/features/trademark_hijacking_report.php

5 &amp; 6. Masking affiliate URLs and Domain redirects - amateur hour. Every last bidder who tries this WILL be busted. It&#039;s trivial to analyze URLs and  quickly narrow these down.

7. Broad match tricks (and misspellings) - if this works, it&#039;s strictly the fault of the affiliate manager. It&#039;s a simple matter to monitor a few hundred variations of a brand name with an automated system.

I&#039;d be happy to arrange for some free service so you can see our systems in action for yourself (email me). Here&#039;s the URL for you to check out in the meantime:

http://www.adgooroo.com/products/trademark_monitoring.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PPCBlogger,</p>
<p>Very nice post but with all due respect, these are old tricks and none of them work against a mature monitoring system (however, practically *all* of them will work against an affiliate manager who is naive enough to believe they can police their affiliates manually.)</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve been doing this for about five years, so I like to believe I know a thing or two. We&#8217;ve spent millions rolling out a global network in over 20 countries. Our network consists of servers located in many major metropolitan ares and it focuses solely on collecting search engine advertisements.</p>
<p>Keeping that in mind, here&#8217;s a point-by-point response to the techniques in your post.</p>
<p>1. Dayparting &#8211; doesn&#8217;t work because an automated monitoring solution is looking 24 hours a day.</p>
<p>2 &amp; 3. Geotargeting and IP blocking &#8211; this WILL work against a small-time system. Our network consists of tens of thousands of nodes. Affiliates have no way of blocking them, short of suppressing ad serving to major cities (which also has the side effect of eliminating most of their traffic.)</p>
<p>4. Advert tricks (&#8220;hijacking&#8221;) &#8211; We are so far beyond that it&#8217;s not funny: <a href="http://www.adgooroo.com/features/trademark_hijacking_report.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.adgooroo.com/features/trademark_hijacking_report.php</a></p>
<p>5 &amp; 6. Masking affiliate URLs and Domain redirects &#8211; amateur hour. Every last bidder who tries this WILL be busted. It&#8217;s trivial to analyze URLs and  quickly narrow these down.</p>
<p>7. Broad match tricks (and misspellings) &#8211; if this works, it&#8217;s strictly the fault of the affiliate manager. It&#8217;s a simple matter to monitor a few hundred variations of a brand name with an automated system.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d be happy to arrange for some free service so you can see our systems in action for yourself (email me). Here&#8217;s the URL for you to check out in the meantime:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.adgooroo.com/products/trademark_monitoring.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.adgooroo.com/products/trademark_monitoring.php</a></p>
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		<dc:creator>Clarification without attack - brand bidding - Affiliate Marketing Forum</dc:creator>
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